Last minutes order: Dad asked me to give some people lands before he passed away— 1st Scion, Apostle Kayode Ogunorunlayede. Says “Dad’s Shoe is not too big for me” (Gal. 4:1)

Scion of the Ogunorunalyede dynasty, Apostle Kayode Ogunorunlayede lead
guests to Dad’s casket during wake-keep.

Apostle Kayode
is the first born and scion of the
spiritual dynasty of the late Shepherd and founder of the CCC, Calvary Parish
(1-6) Superior Evangelist (Dr.) Joshua Akande Ogunorunaleyede.

The shepherd of CCC, Calvary Parish 3, Prayer City,
Itele Road, Ota, Ogun state, South West Nigeria is one man of God gifted with
the gift of Biblical Theory and the knowledge of God’s miracle through the over
three decade of spiritual mentorship under his late Dad coupled with his own
incursion into  theological teachings
which has aided his knowledge of the Celestial Culture as a shepherd in the
vineyard of God. In a no hold bared 2 hours interview session with asabeafrika, Apostle Ogunorunlayede took us through the genealogy of his late
Father and that of his mother, Mother Celestial Felicia Abegbe Ogunorunlayede of
blessed memory
who passed on a year earlier before her husband at age 68. His rendition is like
a mini auto-biography for two people who meant the world to him. The man of God
also shared the very last minutes of his father’s earthly sojourn with us.  Enjoy the story direct from the horse’s mouth.

Sir, we will like you to describe
your father as the scion of his spiritual dynasty; who is your father far from
the view of every other person in the world?
First and
foremost let me tell you that my father’s demise is a great loss to the entire
Celestial (Church) fold and the Calvary family. How are the mighties falling,
that was the first statement I made when I entered the hospital and saw his
body lying. But I can also tell you that he has come, seen, fought and
conquered. He was more than a conqueror in death. The vacuum he left behind
nobody can fill it; only Christ can do that for us because he is a special
father and if I have to define him like you asked me to do, I will end up
publishing a hard cover—a novel. But to God be the glory that he has put me on
the right lane and the right place even though I didn’t want to follow it
initially but he made it clear to me that if I fail to follow this part, this
is what is going to happen. I had to follow him and all what he said then has
come to pass especially now that he has left us alone. Those things have
started  manifesting  especially Galatians Chapter 4 verse 1,
the day my father quoted it and asked me to read it; he said a day will come
that I will remember this verse and now it stays with me.

Apostle Kayode Ogunorunlayede with Dad’s wife Madam Funmilayo
 Ogunorunlayede and younger brother, Segun Ogunlade

There is a general belief that while
your father was still an Anglican, you became a Celestial member ahead of him,
how true is this perception?
I cannot be
the first because he is the one that is leading me, both of us stayed together
and as a father he has never for once left me alone. Weather with my mother or
without her, he has to hold me. I have been staying with him during that time
when he came back one night and said he met his senior brother (Uncle Ayinde Tinubu now Most Superior Evangelist Ayinde Tinubu
of CCC, Agege Parish) that he want us to go and see him and we proceeded there
to see the man; and from that day henceforth, we started attending the
Celestial Church of Christ.
We learnt that it was actually you
that preceded your dad by being a professional drummer in the fold before your
dad joined?
No, it is
the other way round; my father was the first to start in the choir before I
joined him. Because that his senior brother (Baba Tinubu) is a choir master.
Baba Tinubu was the choir master then and his church had eminent people as
parishioners and my father was one of his men in the choir. We equally started
the Sunday school session in the church, so my father acted as Sunday school
leader and Choir leader and was trained by Baba Tinubu. A lot of things that I
know about Celestial  Church today is Baba
that taught me, we are his baby (I and my Father) teaching us
the act of Sunday school; it was after my dad left the choir that he asked me
to join and because I was very rascal at the time, during the service I will be
somewhere playing football. So, my joining the choir was like a deliberate
action by my father to put me through. So, he asked me to go and replace him at
the choir. Now, talking about my drumming talent, I am gifted with the art of
talking drum because my mother is from a talking drum family in Osun state. I
inherited it, it is in my gene. I inherited the gift from my mother. It is a
natural gift. When my mother was given to my father in marriage, the natural
custom is to put a talking drum inside her loads and I am the one that must
inherit the talking drum as the first son. That is the culture and tradition of
my mother’s home; I grew up playing that drum. At the church I do the talking
drum, I do the samba, base drum, double drum. I did all that as a small boy and
the experience was very interesting.
Maybe you should even tell us
something about your late mother, Mother Celestial Felicia Abegbe
Ogunorunlayede’s family heritage?
In Osun
state, my mother’s family is famous for talking drum. They are from a place
called Ikoyi, the native land of Ikoyi, when you get to Ikoyi, ask for
. The Yoruba dialect pronounces it as “Lawani” and English calls
it “Lawal”.
, Ile Obe that is my mother’s family house. I partly grew up
there because my father and everybody were living there at a time before we
relocated to Lagos. I do follow those beating drums at events as my maternal
grand father will lead the outing.  In
the entire Osun and Oyo state of the old time, he was the leader of the talking
drum tribes then. In fact he was the Chief talking drummer to the
then who is also one of the paramount rulers in Osun state.
What is your maternal grand father’s
His name is Prince Lamidi Lawani, he is late
now.  He was the chief talking drummer to
of Ikoyi
then and I started playing those things in the church after
learning at his foot. From there I graduated from playing the native talking
drum to playing drum sets, from there I started playing guitar, lead guitar,
solo guitar, rhythm guitar, playing trumpets and to cap it up I started singing
around 1990. My first outing was at Ikoyi again, I was asked to go and lead a
band for the funeral of no other person than the same man that gave birth to my
mother, Prince Lamidi Lawani. It was another unique and historic
experience that I can never forget.
What about your father’s family at
Idi-Emi, how would you describe them and what relationship exist between you
and them?
Ha, ha,
(Laughs) I have strong relationship with them. My paternal grandfather was born
into the family of Ogunlade. Ogunlade himself was a Cocoa merchant; he went
to Ishaga-Orile
to go and plant Cocoa and that was where my paternal grandfather was born. My
father was equally born there; after the Cocoa business collapsed and Ogunlade
passed away, they relocated to Obada Idi-Emi. They are originally
from Ile-Olukosi
in Imala,
their compound name is Olukosi in Imala but when they
returned to Idi-Emi they got lands and started planting oranges, Cassava
and general fruit farming and in no distant time they started exporting Garri
to Lagos, exporting Oranges to Lagos. For your
information my father was the only son for his father, he is the only son and
his father was so over protective of him and that was why my father had to leave
the home early; he decided to leave to go sow his royal oats elsewhere and that
was what brought him to Osun state where he started working at the Rediffussion Nigeria Ltd which later
metamorphosed to Western Nigerian Broadcasting Corporation (WNBC). My father
wanted to study against farming, and being the only son, after his modern 3 certificate there was a strong
need for him to be at home and around his father. But that was not his wish, so
he left home to sow his royal oats in Oyo state. It was there he got married
and once you give birth to your first male child it is traditional that you let
the home front know,  his father asked
him to send both his wife and Baby to him; so, my mother took me down there and
we spent three years there. After which we returned to Oyo state. It was a
familiarity course to enable us knows each other and I can tell you that we
know each other from my father’s family, all his nieces, cousins we all know
each other because we lived together under same ambience when we were kids. The
bond remains till date because of our grand father, we stayed with him and
often go to church with him and it was just one big happy family. So, we had it
like that with my paternal grand dad, my maternal grand dad before we relocated
to Lagos where we met my Uncle, Baba Tinubu and started attending
the Celestial Church of Christ.
Before your dad became a full fledge
Celestial Church member what was his religious life like?
He was an Anglican
Person because he grew up being an Anglican; his father was a
patron of the church in Idi-Emi and he was an Anglican boy
but when he got to Lagos and met Baba Tinubu his senior brother, he
changed to Celestial Church. That was 1973, since then he didn’t depart from
CCC until his final breath. In 1980, he became a full shepherded. Before then
he was working at the United Bank for
Africa but in 1980, he resigned his
appointment with the bank and started sitting with God in the church till his
What were the initial challenges you
guys witnessed at the initial stage of his work in the vineyard?
There was no
money to send me to school; the school authority will send me down from school
and my dad will say I should sit down that God will provide money. And a whole
term will go and there will still be no money to give me for school. Maybe
somebody will just come and say ‘ah, ah, why is Kayode not going to school’ and
after hearing us out, the person will be the one to take me to school and do
half payment and I will start all over again. The same thing applies to my
junior sisters. Yes, those were indeed crucial times because it is not easy to
start a church without financial backing from anybody. It is such a hectic
decision. We rented a room apartment three streets to this place that was where
we stayed for a long time. We shuttled between there and here but a time came
my dad decided that we should stay in the church even without roof. So, he
started building a small shelter; he bought the zinc and carved it out as a
three room apartment and gradually we faced that desert experience before he
was able to build a comfortable apartment for his family.


Did you ever thought in your wildest
imagination that you will follow suit one day and become a Shepherd like your
Of course no
but everything around me pointed to the fact that I was going to be one. I
never stopped studying the scripture. I love reading the Apostolic Faith tracts; I
love reading their tracts and making notes out of it. The same thing with Jehovah
Strong Tower tract, I read those tracts and make lots of
points out of them. At a time I said, ‘oh, let me follow my music I don’t want
to do this job, I started following musicians before I established my own band
but yet there was still something in me that wouldn’t let me miss church. There
is no amount of money you will pay even if it is a million naira that will make
me not to come to church on Sunday. Even if you want me to come and play for
you in Abuja, if the show will affect the church, I will not go because if I go
I will not have peace of mind. Something will keep poking my mind and that was
what led to the fall of my band because there were lots of lucrative shows that
we got which falls on Sundays and I will just cancel it. And that made all my
boys get angry and left. They said ‘we cannot understand this Kayode, all the
time church, church, church’. So, for me, the path to the vineyard has always
been a stone throw.

What is your experience so far as a
shepherd in one of your father’s cathedral, Calvary 3, could you share some
with us?
It was a
very big challenge and still a big one; I never knew shepherding a church was
as hard as that. When I was in the mother parish here I didn’t know I was
enjoying because he (Dad) has suffered for me. Anybody that is working with him
will not suffer because he has paid the price. But when I stood on my own, I
now saw the challenges. To put people together under a commission is not easy,
even to invite people to become your member is not easy. Even the brand of the
church you profess is not helping matter, they will say ‘ah, Cele?’,  In fact I have some pastor friends from Redeem, Winners and some other Pentecostal denominations, when they come to
me, they will say ‘Ah, but you are too sharp to sit here as a Cele now, we like
the way you pray, the way you preach, you don’t do like Cele, come to us and
let us affiliate you’. They all said I should change the church to Pentecostal
that they will finance me but I told them it is impossible. You must understand
where your call lies. We are part of the chosen generation for the rejuvenation
of the Celestial Church of Christ.
That is why in 2005 when I fell into a deep sleep, I heard somebody call me “Apostle”. That ‘you are an apostle to
the world; that you should go and preach, heal and mold. Then I went to see my
mentor Dr. Omololu Oladosu of Maranatha
International Ministries
, when I stepped into his ambience he said “My
Great Shepherd” and I said “Sir, I am not a shepherd, I am an Apostle” and he said “have it as you
said, may God bless you” and since then, I have been addressed as an Apostle till now. I was in his school
between 2005 and 2007; it is an interdenominational Bible Institute with
teachers from different denominations. They teach Bible not Doctrine.  They teach you the word of God and how to
apply it; they teach you theology, communication and how to develop the church.
They teach you how to adapt to the modern challenges of running a modern

But don’t you think some of these
modern teachings you are talking about are directly in conflict with the
Celestial doctrine?
No, it is on
its own and the doctrine and the callings of the Celestial Church are on their
own. There is something we call culture, Celestial culture, we have culture
which is this (touches his garment) you put on the white, set the altar,
burning incenses, lighting the candle, put on your girdle or wearing of loins,
that is the culture. The other way round, it teaches you how you can relate
with your audience from the pulpit. You don’t just talk to them as the man
there; you must know them psychologically and know what to say. You speak from
the Bible not from your head, you must do exploit with the word.
Are you saying this does not stop the
Celestial culture of carrying out special interventional prayers where
necessary and as directed by the Holy Spirit?
Not at all;
sprinkling of water, sprinkling of perfume is our real culture that can not be
erased. When you go to the Catholic Church they have the charismatic arm but
the Catholic culture is still there where you see them burn the incense. In our
own case, there are Celestial angels when you sing their song they will come down,
when you born their incense they will come down. They are military angels that
are assigned to work for signs and wonder.

What did you learn from your dad that
is still working for you till date?
see and do as if you don’t see. You endure even though the issue is bordering
you but you just have to endure. Even if the experience is challenging, you
must endure it; application of wisdom. That is what I learnt from him. And he
was given an award, Grand Commander of Spiritual Healing. God has given it to him
and he will teach you because you have to learn it. He will teach you how you
can operate on that level of spiritual healing. We thank God that he took us
through it.
Will you say your dad is a very
strict father or a pampering dad, does he spank?
Initially he
was like that, a very strict man who can beat the hell out of you. That were
those days, I am talking of late 60s to early 70s but as from 1980, no; and he
told me that he must not use his hand to beat anybody again because it has been
empowered. That he must not be angry with anybody again because if he does,  it will lead to dangerous consequences for the
person and he will be charged divinely. Because his anger alone will wound that
person, so he must not get angry and whatever you do, he must take it
peacefully so that he won’t get boiled. Even if you annoy my dad, he will just
be calm and will let the steam of anger stifle out of him before he relates to
you. He will even tell you ‘sorry’ because he knows what it means to even be
angry in the first place.

What are his favorite hymns and
His favorite
hymn is “E bawa yo Ara Ninu Christy fun
Orire ta’a ni
Celestial Hymn 276,
of course he loves several other hymns like hymn 90. My father is
always with pen and paper, at times they give it to him in his dream and he
will call me and say “Kayode, do you know this hymn?” and I will say no. he
will order that I make the choir sing it right away. ‘Go and learn it and teach
the choristers and they must sing it on Sunday morning’. He has inclinations
for spiritual songs, you can not just sing any song for him, he will not
accept. Talking about literature, my dad loves Biblical books, Christian
literatures. He has over two hundred thousand books in his study. He has been
acquiring those books right from his time at UBA. He will tell you the day he
started reading it and he will equally attach a jotter to signify the day he
finished reading each book. He is a meticulous reader and he respect documents
so much. But in 2010, he came down to my parish and said the Lord has answered
him because at a time he looked at those books and started crying that ‘God,
who is going to take up these books, am I going to waste them? ‘This my boy now
is facing music, so who is going to read all these books?’ and he said he
started praying, praying and praying but now he can see God has answered that
prayer because he saw that I am so much interested in reading books. Because in
most cases I will come and meet him and say, ‘Daddy, there is a book I saw in
your study so- so year’ and he will say ‘ok, I have it, go and open so-so place
and search for it’ and you find the book there; Yoruba Dictionary volume
1, 2, 3 and 4. English dictionary, advance dictionary, he will give them to me.
He was the one that encourages me to always read my Bible side by side with
dictionary. If you are reading King James or any version of the Bible, you must
keep your dictionary by the side so that if you encounter some words that are
alien to your understanding, you can look at your dictionary for proper
interpretation and it helps you to preach properly. I used to exhibit those
gifts in my church and so many Men of God that visits will say ‘but Celestial
preachers are not like this. I went to Ido Ajinare Mountain in Efon-Alaye and spend 7 days for
praying. The man of God there said since the day you arrived here you have been
busy reading but Cele people don’t read like that, and you put on your white
garment, which kind of Cele are you?’. And I said, “I have been used to it, I
can’t do without reading and writing. I need to read, I need to write” and
because of that small thing I did before him the very busy man of God came down
from Efon-Alaye to visit me in my
church at Ota. Ido Ajinare Mountain
is where the late Joseph Ayo Babalola
went to pray for 40 days/40 nights and as he was sleeping, a big snake crawled
over him and the snake dried up without any effect on the man of God, the place
till date has been circled and it is called “Power Land” nobody can pass through it if you are not clean. You
are a woman menstruating, you can’t even come nears because another thing can

There is a wide perception that your
dad knew he was going to pass away soon; what were the last encounters you
shared with him? 
During his
last moment, he brought out all his documents and called me and said ‘I want
you to have all these documents. He equally called Sunday my junior one including Segun,
we his male children were present. All the landed properties, he gave us the
documents and he equally said there are some people he wants to give part of
the lands to, he gave me their names. He said I may hear it in his will that some properties should be
given to some people, that he doesn’t want me to hear it from any other person
or source; so he needed to tell me by himself. That this and this and this are
for so-so and so, he equally handed over to me the entire documents of that
church where I am now that I should take it. He said ‘keep it o, keep it o’. It
is for you and I took it. He told me a lot of things and at a point I became
worried and I asked ‘why are you telling me all this?’ and he said ‘I just feel
like opening up to you’. He also showed me the projects he wanted to do in this
place (Calvary parish 1) he showed me the plan, even the Cathedral he want to
build. He has the plan of the cathedral he wants to build; he has inculcated
the structure into the land mass. He said he is doing it to me because that is
how David did for Solomon. That now, I want to go, Solomon see this, do this
and ensure this because anytime I might not be here again. You are now up to
the level spiritually where a father can open up to you.  Take care of your junior ones, all of them
are your children. Take care of them and don’t look down on any one of them.
Even if you don’t have money, give them the rapport, call to know their well

(Cuts in) Were you afraid when he was
saying all these to you?
I was not
afraid because my faith does not permit me to do so; even when my mother died I
didn’t feel like crying because I saw everything from the spiritual
perspective. Because the Bible says there is season for everything, the season
of death is what we should expect. When it comes, it comes. No crying.
At the time he was opening up to you
was it beginning of last year or towards the end of the year?
It was
middle of 2013, after the juvenile harvest. And I came back again after the
juvenile harvest because I came to ask him about the criticism that followed
his tagging the adult harvest “Jesus at
Golgotha” I made him know that the
theme was not in tandem with celebration, and he said to me that ‘this year Calvary
is 33 years and his own ministry as a full shepherd is now 33 and
Jesus died at the age of 33 and nobody ever forgets him, that Jesus made a
landmark as he finished the work at Golgotha at the age of 33 and because we
are Calvary, we must celebrate Golgotha at 33” and I said ‘okay, no problem’. He said ‘well, that is what
everybody is asking him, so what is wrong in Golgotha? And I told him “Sir, it
doesn’t go with Christmas or Adult Harvest, it goes with Ester when Jesus was
killed and rose again. If you talk about Easter, you talk about Calvary,
and Resurrection
because the crown of thorns was put on him at Golgotha
and the blood was gushing out. But he said ‘that is how they showed it
to him in that vision and he must not allow anybody to do it for him, he must
do it by himself’. In fact he was the one that designed the banner.  When they called me that my father was ill, I
became a bit worried because we were planning one year memoriam service for my
mother. He said when he returned from Imeko, we will do everything
together. When he came back, I called him and he said ‘okay, let’s meet after
the new year’ that I should come, and that we should go and do the tilling of
the place before January 22 so that by 22 we will do the Amisa Service for her.
That was our last discussion at December 27th. I said ‘okay no problem
Daddy’. But on the 3rd of January they called me on phone “Daddy cannot
eat o, he has been rushed to the Hospital” I said “Haaa?” I thought it was his
normal routine old age illnesses, thinking he was going to bounce back.  I even said it could be as a result of his
several journeys to Imeko and Christmas activities coupled with the harvest
anniversary stress which took place on the first Sunday of December. But my
mind was troubled at the same time, my wife said ‘why are you so disturbed like
this?’ and I said “The way they told me baba is, I don’t like it”. That night I
took off to the hospital, I got in, I looked at him. I called him he didn’t
respond. He just opened his eyes and looked at me and later he closed his eyes.
I moved closer to his ears, I said ‘Daddy, it is me Kayode’. He opened his eyes
again, stared at me and uttered nothing. I quickly went to a Prophet friend, Senior Prophet Olulana Okesangunje, he
is CAC
prophet, I went to the mountain to pray with him, I urged him to pray
for my dad o because I don’t want to lose him now because we still have a lot
of things to do. You can see that Calvary
we are now writing “Prayer City
on that building, there is something we ironed out before it was agreed that we
put that tag of “Prayer City” on the church. 

“During his last moment, he brought out all his documents he called me and said ‘I want you to have all these documents. He equally called Sunday my junior one including Segun, we his male children were present. All the landed properties, he gave us the documents and he equally said there are some people he wants to give part of the lands to, he gave me their names”.

We still have a lot of projects to
carry out to ensure total success, so I said ‘Dad must not go like that o’. Second
day, I left the place and came down to the hospital, I looked at him, he has
changed a little bit. I called Taiye my son, ‘how is Grandpa doing?’ He said he
is now talking that he said they should go and bring his tape as he wanted to
be listening to songs and that he is now eating. They said he has just finished
eating as I was getting in, and that he is resting. But on the third day, the
Doctor invited me over saying that he has called the Council of Elders, that
they should equally come. But we all arrived different time and the Doctor
discuss with us. He said my father is not responding to the treatments again.
So, my junior sister became anxious, she insisted we should move him out of the
place to another place. But for us, that was not the solution then because the
pace was well equipped. By the time I got home that day, I knew he was gone…he
has gone.

So how did the news hit you?
By the time
I received the call few days later that I should start coming, I didn’t even
ask what happened because spiritually, psychologically, I knew he was gone.
When I got there I asked them, can I take him out to the mortuary. I called Baba
and Baba Tinubu said ‘are you there physically?’, I said ‘yes,
sir’. He said then ‘do the necessary thing’. Myself and Uncle Dave (Memeh) and
Baba Secretary (Baba Abioro) we sought for an ambulance and moved him to the
mortuary. That day was a Sunday, when I returned home, I was in the bathroom
and I just heard something like his voice that I should go and tell them to
play music in the church compound. It came like an order,’ “Go and tell them to
play music for me” and I drove down from Ota to come and inform Baba Secretary
here (Ogba), that we should open the office and play music, that this is what I
heard when I was bathing in the bathroom, that we should play music.
How big is your father’s shoe and do
you think you are prepared to wear it?
(Kept Quite
for a while) That if I am prepared? It is not big for me to put my leg in
because it (Shoe) is going to be there for me always. That is why the Yoruba
said “Ile
Baba Omo kii Bo’mo Leru”
(Nothing can scare you off your father’s
estate). Because before he died, ironically he has started giving me some
certain things. He showed me quite a lot because he didn’t want me be a
theoretical shepherd, he wants me to be a practical and experienced shepherd
that is why he sent me down to the field. When I got there (CCC, Calvary 3) I
now knew what it meant to stand with God, before then I thought you will just
sit down and things will be falling down for you but I got to know it is not
like that, you have to toil to get there. I got there with two cars and in no
time, I couldn’t maintain them again, so I have to start trekking on leg. After
four years, somebody came one day and said ‘Shepherd, can you manage a motor
cycle?’, I said ‘no problem’ and he gave me a motorcycle. I used it to run up
and down, I did that for two years and when I came to complain to him, he said
‘that is the work, keep it up. Go there, face it’. One day, I said “Daddy, I
woke and my entire back is aching” he said ‘ok, go and take anointing oil and
rub it there’. But you must go back and face it and do it the way I normally do
it in your presence”. And with God, all things are possible. It is God’s favor
and grace
Can you say a word for your dad’s
admirers and spiritual children around the globe?
All lovers
and well-wishers of Ogunorunlayede Akande Joshua the great commander of Spiritual
healing, people see him from different perspective but one thing is very
certain about my father and that is Christ.
They should see Christ in him; dedication to the Celestial work and tenet. The
way he dedicated his life to the work and the church, he was not after
hierarchical positions; ‘they should give me this or that, he will tell you ‘your
work will speak for you. Keep on doing the work, even if they don’t see it
today, they will see it tomorrow. And don’t you ever put a man in the front
saying without this person, I cannot do anything. Don’t ever put a man before
you, instead, put Christ there; after Christ, it is you and the people behind.
Because Christ you put before you will instruct them to follow you. You are not
the one to instruct them but Christ. They are not following you but following
Christ. Pa J.A Ogunorunlayede is a pace setter and whenever they are in
trouble they can call on the grace God bestowed upon him and they will get
results. That is why his name was changed from Ogunlade to Ogunorunlayede.
is a different person. Ogunorunlayede is a different
person, in all my certificates except the Bible school certificate I put Ogunlade. But I was instructed
spiritually that I should bear that name and let it be known that I am Ogunorunlayede.
All my younger ones are Ogunlade but I am
because a lot of things have been revealed to me; this
uniform I am putting on was the first mission given to my father, it was the
first mission given to him. But due to experiences of life and other things
surrounding him he couldn’t move with the vision. He need to drop it and
followed others because when God gives you a vision, people will come and fight
it, there is no way, they must come. 

But my father is a kind of person that
doesn’t like to offend people. He will drop it and follow the one that reckons
with the culture. For him to be given the Grand Commander of Spiritual Healing,
that one is still part of the Celestial Culture. For one to have almost a
thousand prophets under him was quite unique, no shepherd can do with just ten
prophets because they will fight and destroy the church but God gave Ogunorunlayede
the wisdom to manage them all. He is the only shepherd that doesn’t
demand workers from the headquarters instead, he gives them workers. My father
did that only once when he was inaugurating Calvary Parish 2 and
because some of the workers then were not experienced and he wanted an
experienced prophet with age, Baba loves working with elders. So, he got one
elderly prophet from Ketu (CCC,
National HQ) the man’s wife is a Hausa and she is a prophetess, very sound
woman. That was the only person that was given to Calvary from HQ, after that,
no.  He has been raising Prophets and
establishing them until his demise.