Oschoffa anointed me at 7 against my father’s wish to become an Engineer—Dr. Omololu Oladosu + Why Catholic Pope, John Paul II consulted Oschoffa in 1984

Dr. Omololu Oladosu

Dr. Omololu Oladosu is an internationally acclaimed Bible Teacher, a renowned educationist,
a chattered theologian, a professional counselor, a world crusader and one of
the rare leaders of the Celestial Church
of Christ
. He is the first man to earn a doctorate of theology in the
entire Celestial Church fold and
till date he remains one of the formidable bridges between the Celestial Church of Christ and other
denominations who see him more as an asset than a liability.

Funny enough, Dr. Omololu Oladosu who started the real crusading evangelism in
Celestial Church of Christ some 30 years ago at the exit of the Pastor/Founder
was initially resisted by the hierarchy of his  denomination as they saw him not only as a
liability who has come to break down the walls of conservatism in the four
walls of the church. But he was equally seen as a rebel who was using his new
found way of Christianity to relegate the dictates and ethics of the church.
But today, the author cum motivation speaker who has authored over 50 books has
escaped several ills of persecution including two assassination attempts on his
life by some unfaithful souls in the hierarchy of his church.  For more than two decades, the founder of Maranatha Ministries has been a part of
the current charismatic renaissance sweeping through the world and in
particular on the African continent through Celestial Church of Christ where he grew as the son of a Church
shepherd. Famously addressed as “The Faith Practitioner” with his faith and
covenant based teachings transforming many lives, Dr. Omololu is a reservoir of
God’s words and how it can be applied to any situation.
Last year, Dr. Omololu who is the visioner of Maranatha Pavilion Ministries International
was given an award for “Transformative Leadership” by the Christian Association of Nigeria. The
founder of the Maranatha Bible
 was a special guest of a
7 Wednesdays Christian Program by Celestial
Church of
Christ, Calvary Parish 1,
Aguda-Ogba-Lagos under the leadership of Venerable
Superior Evangelist Ebenezer Bodunrin
Mobiyina Osofa
(Oschoffa) second son of the Pastor Founder of the Celestial
Church of Christ, Reverend Pastor
Samuel Bilewu Joseph
. The event which had several speakers and prayer ministers
congregating at the church from the first Wednesday of the year down to the
last Wednesday on February 17 had Dr.
rounding up the event. Your Africa’s Number 1 Celebrity Encounter
blog, Asabeafrika who was at the
event met and had an exclusive encounter with the Maranatha founder who flew into the event from the United Kingdom a
day earlier. It is a loaded encounter with many revelations. Enjoy the
SBJ Oschoffa

Sir, you mentioned
something about the leadership of celestial church while delivering your sermon
today. What do you think is the problem with the church?

Celestial Church is a great church there is no doubt about that;
The Lord has blessed this church; we have all the gifts all the talents we can
talk about but we have a structural problem and once you have that it will be
difficult for you to harness all the resources but despite that, the church is
thriving without the structure but if we can have a structure we will be
greater and I can say we are getting there.
What is the role of
the Holy Spirit in the Celestial Church’s crisis and how can it help to bring

 The Holy Spirit has spoken to us; we are
the ones messing up the work of the Holy
. Like I said in my sermon today, Celestial Church is blessed with the Holy Spirit but when the Holy
speaks we do not listen, the Holy
said God will appoint you a Pastor and you do not listen to the Holy Spirit, so, what do you want the Holy Spirit to do? The bible said when
the Holy Spirit shall come; He will
teach you all things and lead you into the truth. So, when the Holy Spirit is ministering, you don’t
have any other option than to obey. Samuel
Bilewu Joseph Oschoffa
is an embodiment of the Holy Spirit; He speaks and coughs and eats the Holy Spirit. And the
man said ‘this is what the Lord asked me to do with the Church and we violated
all that. , So, we have relegated the role of the Holy Spirit and that is why God is not happy with us.
Sir, is there any
solution in sight?
Simple, we must go back to the Holy Spirit, and then we submit and allow the Holy Spirit to lead.
You equally mentioned
the great secret behind Pope John Paul II’s visit to late Papa Samuel Bilewu
Oschoffa in 1984 which you said your theological research revealed to be in
tandem with the liberation of the state of Israel. Can you give us a hint of
this memorable visit which took place on Nigerian soil?
I can tell you that the meeting came as a result of a
prophetic insight in 1945 that a great power was to be released into the world.
That was 1945 and Celestial Church
came in 1947 and like I highlighted in my thesis, the Nation of Israel wouldn’t
have been restored to her present state by the United Nations in 1948 if Celestial
did not come into being in 1947. Celestial came in 1947 to usher in Israel back in 1948, it is a
great revelation and it is in the scriptures. Because the Lord said in Jeremiah that He will bring them back
to their land from all over the world where they have been scattered and that
happened in 1948 but before that there must be a sort of gathering that will
usher them back into the land but the insight came in 1945 and they taught it
will be from Italy because Rome happens to be the last Empire and they were thinking that
Roman Empire will be the one to
restore the dignity of Israel not knowing that it was Celestial. God used Oschoffa
“That was the genesis of Celestial Church of Christ.  And what Americans and other nations of the
world were expecting to happen in Rome
happened in Africa. It was the turn
of Africa through the Celestial Church of Christ to transform
the world and that was the chief reason the Pope of Catholic Church, Pope John Paul II travelled down to
Nigeria to see Pa Samuel Bilewu Joseph Oschoffa some years later
when it was finally discovered that the vibration was coming from Africa”

 Pope, John Paul II

At the time when Rome
was leading in ecclesiastical prominence there was renaissance in Italy could
you say Celestial Church also brought renaissance to Africa?

Yes, Oschoffa revolutionized
Christianity, he brought Praise and Worship to Christianity; you can’t take
that away from Celestial.  He introduced satellite branches into
Christianity in Africa, he brought prophecy. We actually activated the Holy Spirit in church ministration;
Celestial brought that to limelight no church can take that away from us.  So, in 1945, there was the revelation and the
and the entire world knew that whenever there is a manifestation of the rainbow
sign in the sky, there was always a release of power in a particular direction
of the world, there was always a power that will accompany such heavenly
manifestation and they were looking out for the power to manifest in Rome because they taught the Roman Empire was the hope of the world
and that Rome will redeem the nation
of Israel. But that didn’t happen. The power fell on one man who was in a thick
forest back here in Africa (Agange in Port-Novo) looking for Mahogany
tree for his carpentry work. The man had seated to study his Bible
after the cutting of the tree and suddenly something happened and he was
transformed and from that end, the story began. That was the genesis of Celestial Church of Christ.  And what Americans and other nations of the
world were expecting to happen in Rome
happened in Africa. It was the turn
of Africa through the Celestial Church of Christ to transform
the world and that was the chief reason the Pope of Catholic Church, Pope John Paul II travelled down to
Nigeria to see Pa Samuel Bilewu Joseph Oschoffa some years later
when it was finally discovered that the vibration was coming from Africa. He
came to say, ‘Oh, so this grace fell on a black man?’He was very amazed. And
the point of their meeting was actually marked as the point between the Old
Church (Catholic) and the New Church (Celestial); the old boat and the new
boat. It is a very deep insight and I think I carried out this research for
several years and got to this point recently. It is the greatest theological
revelation in recent time. It is a very long story but this is what I can tell
you for now.
How would you
describe your host, Venerable Superior Evangelist Ebenezer Bodunrin Osofa who
is Papa’s 2nd son?
If you listen to my introduction of him in the church then
you will appreciate his personality. For like ten to fifteen minutes I gave an
introduction of him and I did not mince my word that is still my position. Such
a wonderful man of God and I tell you why I respect him a lot, he is one of the
few hierarchy that wants the church to grow. He is a great man.
Your Maranathar
ministry has become a sort of revolution boat in the Christendom both in the
White Garment sector of Christianity and even the Pentecostal, and last year
you became the first Celestial Church leader to be so honored with a
Pentecostal title by the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) How did you
receive that honor?  
They have always been doing that for me; since 1985 when I
came fully into gospel, I deal with the Pentecostal World. It was late Arch Bishop Benson Idahosa that first
invited me to Benin when he heard of
what I was doing in the Christian world and I loved him so much.  He was such a great man of God.
You mean Arch Bishop
Benson Idahosa?
Yeah, he embraced me, he embraced the gospel he embraced Celestial Church. Idahosa embraced Celestial
Church of Christ
, he never told me for one day that I should leave. And he
encouraged us and he gave us the exposure. , the likes of Bishop Oyedepo, Oritsejafor
and me; we all got our exposure through Idahosa.
It is the fact. So, I have always been there but I was accused of importing
Pentecostalism into Celestial Church of
. That was the sin I committed. For over 30 years, it is the sin I
committed that till today Celestial has not forgiven me, that I brought
Pentecostalism and I exposed the church to crusading evangelism, I started
staging crusades in defiance to the authority. So, I moved to every nook and
cranny and they will come and pack and disrupt my stage on the crusade ground
until the late Reverend Pastor Bada
embraced me.  And I want to tell the
world that he supported me; when he found the truth and he located the truth,
we all moved together and when we started the seminary it was beautiful.
Can you tell me the
story of your encounter with the man SBJ Oschoffa himself, how did it happen
and what did he tell you before his demise?
I grew up under Papa
feet. My father was a shepherd and that was the connection. Papa
will always come to my father’s church for harvest. But why we got interested
in Papa
as kids was because anytime he visits he will give us 50K notes brand new in those days. So, we were always happy to see
him around and we will all say ‘Hey, Papa
is coming to see us, Papa is coming to visit us’
but I can say Papa
has such a humble lifestyle. He was a great but very humble man, highly
spirit-filled man who sees the future before it approaches.  So full of the spirit and very knowledgeable
in the things of God and we grew up under his feet, we understudied him. Two
things I learnt from him, number one, I have not seen him carrying candles
anywhere and his crusades were always spirit filled. We attended Papa’s
crusades at Road Park and Stadium and so many places; he will
minister and after the preaching of the word, miracles will begin to happen.
So, I said I wanted to be like him.
(Cuts in) And it is
happening to you now?
To the glory of God; and number two, when I wanted to step
into the gospel fully he was the one. Let me tell you the truth today, when I
was age 7, it was Papa that put 4 Corner (Sultana gown) on me and ordained me
as a Prophet. I was one of the few that could minister at that tender age and Papa said
to my dad “Eleyi Wooli ni” (This one is a prophet), meanwhile God has told my
mum when my pregnancy was three months old that the baby she was carrying would
be a prophet and a prophet to the nation and especially for Celestians. So,
when I was 7 Papa came and said what God has told my parent about me is what he
has come to perfect. So, he put the four corners (Sultana) on me and I started
prophesying. When I was age 12, there was a prophecy that I am going to be well
read and that I am going to minister in all the nook and crannies of the
Celestial world. When I was age 15, Papa came back to my dad and told my dad
that he must not dissuade me from the call of God which my father wanted to do
at that time because he wanted me to study Engineering. So, I was fully grown,
God equipped me, I followed my heart, followed the spirit and in 1985 it was
ripe for me to come into the system and I went to Papa for blessing. I met him
March 3rd 1985. So, it was then he told me I should not take rank, I
should not fight for position, and that he would have loved to see my days in
the ministry but that he would have been gone. And today, that is what I am
doing all over the world, ministering to the Celestial World.
But why are you so
scarce to get? You are quite expensive and elusive?
Because I am busy.
Your Theology School
gives scholarships to a lot of Christians; I want you to air your views on the
kind of money Christian Universities takes as school fees today?
Well, for me, my father was a Shepherd. Although my father
retired from British Telecommunications (GE Telecoms) as a Logistic
Director, he retired from that height into God’s work. So, as a son of a
Shepherd, my growing to this status is grace. We didn’t have a support; it was
a taboo to tell anybody that you read the Bible in Cele in those days. I was
the first Doctoral Degree Holder in Theology in the entire Celestial World, go
and investigate that. And to the glory of God, I said to myself, as many that
want to read the Bible, for the first one year, it will be tuition fee. And that
is what I have been doing and like I have done here today, I have give
scholarship to 50 of them for a year (50 members of workers of CCC, Calvary
Parish). And even if they are more, they will be studying without paying a dime
for one year. They will only pay for their certificates. But that you want to
earn your theology at Maranatha Bible University, you are
getting your one year diploma in theology free. That is my own commitment to
the development of Biblical education in the Celestial Church of Christ. And
that one year is enough to equip them and get them back to work in this church.
Before Baba (Ven-Sup-Evang. EB-Osofa) got here, he met my products on ground
and that gave me joy. If I haven’t produced them ahead of his coming, he
wouldn’t have met them on ground to work with. 
And that is what Maranatha has done and is still
doing all over, we are in 10 states across Nigeria at the moment with campuses
and we are still opening more campuses and we will continue to do more for the
glory of God.
You have not really
spoken on the arbitrary charges by Christian established universities in
Nigeria, does it says much about humanity?
Well, they need the money to equip the school. Education is
expensive, it is the truth. We are surviving by His grace and one of the
reasons why we are surviving is because God has blessed us with some
individuals. People like me and some other people who will pick the bills.  Mind you, I have to pay my lecturers. Even if
you are not paying tuition fees I still have to pay my lecturers. Yeah, so,
that is a challenge we must factor in; education is expensive but ignorance is
more expensive because it will damage you. It is only education that will
redeem you.
Where do you get the
inspiration to write powerful books, some of your books are just too
How many have you read?
At least I am reading
“Pursuit of Prosperity” and I have found some of your books in Very Important
People’s Libraries?
Wait until you read like ten of my books then you will know
I write from the divinity. So many of the General Overseers in Nigeria buy my
books for intellectual nourishment and ministry growth, Baba (EB Osofa) has
read my books; the very first book Baba (EB Osofa) read, he said ‘Doctor, where
do you get the inspiration to write your books?’, the same question you asked
because I write from different perspectives. I allow the Holy Spirit to induce me, in order to write differently from how
others have written. That is what the Holy
has done for me. I want to write differently from what others have
been writing and that is what the Holy
has been doing for me. I am writing a book now titled “Being Born
Again”, what people don’t understand about me is that I write from different
perspectives; that is the way I write. I want to write from different angles
and I want the Holy Spirit to expose that angle to me. It helps your readers to
appreciate your sense of research and presentation.  So that when you pick my book, you will know
that this is not like the others.
Before I round up
this interview session with you, I want you to clarify this issue about
Celestial Church. Fundamentally, it is spiritually agreed that a Shepherd must  be able to conduct some Spiritual Exercise
like chasing out demonic spirits through spiritual baths with candle and soaps
but with your own kind of approach, it seems you are kicking against the
fundamentals. But Jesus said he didn’t come to destroy the Law of Moses but
replenish it. Are you here to replenish the call of Oschoffa and how?
My people perish because of their lack of knowledge; this is
Baba (EB Osofa). I was here some weeks back and he was counseling a woman here.
I am giving you a typical example of a shepherd with the word of God.  They brought the spiritual message of the woman
on a message scroll. What I want to tell you is very rare; and I sat with him
and he took the message scroll and started marking down some aspects of the
message, he marked item one and two and he asked the woman a question and said
‘This, I won’t do for you except you bring your husband.  I am going to cancel this’ etc; it is called
spiritual discernment. What is the correlation between carrying out a spiritual
deliverance work of Emere  (Ogbanje) and ‘Mu
Omi Oju Ina’ (spiritual water for the killing of dream food poison), what is “Mu Omi
Oju Ina
?” What is the purpose of Omi
Oju Ina
and what is the purpose of Spiritual Deliverance for Emere Work? They are two different
things but a Shepherd without discernment will merge it together but Baba
discerned it and I stood and saluted his sense of discernment as the shepherd
of a church. It was rare, it was great and it was knowledgeable for him to
understand how this things work in the Celestial
.  I said ‘Daddy, you are a
shepherd’. Ask him; that is true shepherding. I am not saying people should not
go to the stream for deliverance work (If your case permits) if you want to go
to stream hundred times; it is your head-ache. 
See, If you want to go to Ibadan, you can pass through the
Highway to Ibadan but if you chose to pass through Igbo-Ora and Odeda,
it is your choice. But I am teaching you a better ways to receive God’s
blessings, just like what I taught here today, you are looking for blessings
and you don’t pay tithe, you don’t pay offerings, you don’t give and you come
and go then you came with spiritual items that you want the shepherd or any of
the Levites to pray for you, how will God bless you? When you walk according to
the dictates of God, you won’t need to go to the stream before you are delivered.  I am telling you, when you live according to
the word of God and the word of God is in you, you won’t go to the bush and
that is what I am teaching  Celestial. To
know how to use the word, the blood, the name that God has given to us. The
Devil took away those things; blind folded us and sent us to the bush.  So, he took us into ceremonial world
abandoning the gospel world. So, how are we going to cleanse the word? By soap,
by sponge or by the word of God, and we don’t know it. We don’t know the word.
So, Dr. Omololu is not changing
Celestial, Dr. Omololu is getting
Celestial back on track and that is the truth and that is my message all over
the world and that is what I preach. I don’t owe anybody an apology for that.
To the glory of God, people are embracing me. Let me quickly give you this. The
time I came in, I wouldn’t say it was a wrong time. There was no gospel, I
started it. But you know that definitely I will meet a brick-wall. I met a
strict adherence to religious procedures and just like Jesus came to usher in the gospel and they challenged him and they
said no; they killed Jesus because
they said he was changing the rules and dictates of the old religion. They
would have killed me too.
Did they make any
attempt on your life?
Twice they sent Hired Assassins after me.
How did you escape?
God just saved me, they met me and they told me, we are sent
here to kill you that you are disturbing the hierarchy of this church (CCC) but
we didn’t know you are such a young man, twice. 
And they left me. But to the glory of God, I am what I am today; just by
God’s grace but today, they are embracing the gospel. We are known everywhere
now for the gospel and people are yearning for the gospel and the situation has
changed unlike the time of the old.
You have travelled
across the globe, which country do you think Celestial Faith is more prominent?
Nigeria, Celestial
is better off in Nigeria than in America than in Europe. We all travelled over Europe and we can say they too are
embracing the gospel. We know that God will usher in the dispensation where the
gospel will thrive in the system and I must commend the efforts of all other
colleagues of mine like Kunle Hamilton,
Ekunola Davies, Benson Aiyegbusi and the likes of them.  They have really tried to sustain the gospel,
God would bless them.
Lastly, a message for
Nigerians in 2016, they year has been so hostile in the area of personal
economy, how do you think Nigerians can survive 2016?
Nigerians should be patient. It will take time to
re-construct what has been destroyed. They should be patient with (President) Buhari. Buhari mean well for Nigeria, he means well for the economy, he is
sincere with what he is doing and all we need to do is to support him and
Nigeria will be better for it, we only need this year to cross into our years
of abundance. I said it in my 2016 Prophecy, that it is a year of enthronement.
Nigeria is going to be enthroned in the end of the year but in the beginning of
the year, it is going to be strenuous. After the first six months we will see
that Nigeria will begin to take shape and everything will be better for it.
Nigerians needs endurance, long suffering and we will get there. Nigeria will
be great again.
Thanks for opening up
to us Dr. Omololu.
Thanks and God bless you, Gbenga.